Life as a Geocacher

Caching and Reviewing

This is made up of stories from my caching and my reviewing.  It is a collection of those along with comments and thoughts.  Photos, and maps of some adventures and lists of some of the oldest caches.

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Springtime = Earthcache time.

Yep it is that time again.   Spring is here, and it is time to get going. I was thinking it was time for me to give advice on getting an Earthcache published.  I am surprised as I see there appears to be a number of people that just seem to struggle.  Some sail through the process and others get bogged down in minutia  They fall in a few categories.  

 GC5H550 Fin Erosion, Photo by geogriefer from geocaching website

GC5H550 Fin Erosion, Photo by geogriefer from geocaching website

The Historically Interesting

Remember Earthcaching is about the geologic world around you. It is not about the building, dam, fort, city hall, or the history of the ancient people that lived there.  We are trying to teach about Geology Yes I know it is a little wider that just the science of geology, I will cover that in a minute.  Unless I loose track and start rambling, which happens often. 

As much as the building of the dam, the people it displaced, and the history may be interesting it cannot be the primary focus of the cache.  If part of your Earthcache is on topic we may ask you to remove it.  Some fight tooth and nail to keep it in, but it can't be the primary focus. 

I can go here so no permission is needed

Wow this has been a huge fallacy for some time. This is primarily for the US Earthcaches.  Differences in laws and land manager policies give other locations different opinions.  Recently I asked the other US reviewers.  Everyone was pretty much on the same page.  You need permission, there can be some leeway for a road pullout, but if you place off road you will be asked for permission. 

I have good relations as a reviewer for Earthcaches with many National Park Service, BLM, state parks and other agencies.  I regularly get emails from a few of them. I have taken the time when traveling to greet them if they were in their offices.  They are good people doing their job.  If you want to make them mad, publish and lie about permission.  That works for me as well.  I have had a few people that apparently lied to me.  I have contacted the email given and was told they never asked.  On the flip side, a manager from Zion National park contacted me, upset they had not given permission, and was thinking about having a number archived.  We pulled records with names and he left happy, after a good discourse.  So mistakes do happen. 

In another instance a cacher said there was no need for permission and pointed me to the BLM webpage.  At the bottom is stated "please contact the BLM office to make sure the location is appropriate.  I have had, and seen,  a number turned down.  For a number of reasons

  1. Area is closed.  Though no signage exists, it is a closed area. 
  2. People were gathering the material to be seen (archaeological, fossils, obsidian, etc) and they did not want to advertise. 
  3. A permit was needed, and contact with the managing agency.  They wanted to make sure the site was not advertised.  
  4. Dangerous location. 
  5. Plants/animals were considered endangered. 

In the end take the time.  They can be a help to you as well. 

Take a photo

Yep, not allowed.  Since about 2011 a photo requirement is optional.  It was not grandfathered.  I hear that a lot.  I have let a few cache owners know.  Log disputes are up to someone else, HQ and the Geological Society, however if the requirements do not meet the guidelines I will go back and address it with the cache owner. 

The terrible logging task

I will point to this in the Help Center

An EarthCache teaches an earth science lesson. The cache page must include logging tasks that help teach the same lesson. Remember that the EarthCache is based on the world around us, not on an informational sign at the EarthCache site. Geocachers must complete the tasks before they log the EarthCache as found.

What are good tasks?  Tasks that ask people to interpret what they see.  How did this form this way? I have one where people try to burn a piece of oil shale, I ask them what they see and learn.  Others ask people to describe the formation, and why it formed like that. 

What are bad tasks? Eleveation, measure the width of the river, or depth. Find a word on a sign, give me a diameter of the boulder.  Remember we are here to teach. 

 Clastic Pebbele Dikes, photo by oxsling

Clastic Pebbele Dikes, photo by oxsling

The wrong earth science

Earth science is pretty broad.  For the sake of the Geological Society of America, it means the hard earth, the physical part of our planet.  Geology and its related fields. 

I know it is sad.  I have proposed a few times to people at Groundspeak to create a BioCache or something similar, however until then, we are stuck with using the GSA options. 

What is not ok?  Biology, ecology, geodesy, archaeology, oceonography, zoology.....  I think you get the point. 

Wayyyy to many

Once and a while something spreads.  Bob places an Earthcache, and everyone copies it.   You see a mirror of it all over.  So many are limited.   We can also see a time when things just are too problematic, they are not bad ideas, but really they are not doable. So what are these?

  • Springs, 
  • Building and decorative stones. 
  • river confluences
  • waterfalls 
  • artesian wells
  • glacial erratics
  • river gaging stations

Now an area may be saturated.  Yellowstone is buried with caches on geysers.  If there is nothing new to be taught, you may not be allowed to list a cache.  Every reviewer will have his limits on how close you can have a cache to a similar one. 

 GC5FM6F, photo by utahsnowflake

GC5FM6F, photo by utahsnowflake

What can I do?

Well first, remember it can be a long haul.  I have had a few I have worked on for years.  I need a bit more info.  Many people take a few weeks to a few months to get it listed.  I am always impressed with the people that do it on the first try.  So do not be discouraged.  Don't try and overwhelm the visitor either. This is not a doctorate thesis on geology.  Pretend you are teaching a Jr High student. 

Remember to take it a step at a time. 

  1. Do I meet the focus of the Earthcache program
  2. Do I have the science to teach?
  3. Do I have logging tasks that use what I teach?
  4. Do I have permission?

Done.  See how easy?  Ok it is not that easy, but you know what I mean.  Take it in steps.

The Virtual Reward

There are hiders and there are hiders.  There are those people that do amazing work have a great many fantastic caches that people tip their hats too. We all know there.  There are a few in every area.  Perhaps they specialize in the Earthcaches that are interesting, it may be the gadget caches that keep others entertained.  Other cachers may place caches in locations that make others ooh and ahh at the scenic beauty. So now there is a reward for some of them.

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First I had nothing to do with it

As a reviewer, we were not asked who, how, or what should be included in the algorithm. So don't contact any reviewer mad that you did not get one. We had no input.  A small group of lackeys sat down and (I am sure) pounded out the thoughts of what should be included, and what should be weighted. 

However, I know people will ask.  Why was cacher X chosen, and not Y?  Well, obviously the most good looking, smart, and happy cachers got chosen.  So when you are asked, that is the answer that should be given.  That seems simple enough.  Well, I can't say that, because I do not know who was chosen.  No one has even shared that with me. So once again, I am no help.

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You got an email

So you will have received an email from HQ if you got it.  Other than that, I don't know much.  The caches are supposed to go out to the top hiders, not in your area, but worldwide. Some people you may have been sure to get one, may not have, and I am expecting people to be surprised at others.  That seems to be how a computer will spit things out.  Congrats enjoy the day, you have a while to use it and get it listed.

If you did not get an email

Not much you can do this time around.  There will be a lot that does not get them, I have no great advice.  Place better caches?  Place some?  Just enjoy the new ones?  The cache pages are not adoptable, so I am assuming that some people will not even use the ones they have.

A Geocaching Photo Day.

Far too often we never look at the photos that people place on your caches.  You really never see them, you are not notified of them, and often they are kind of dumb.  I have a ton of Earthcaches with dozens upon dozens of photos of someone holding their GPS.  I don't ask them to take a photo of their GPS, or their forhead, or whatever, but I get them.  

Once and a while you get some cool photos.  Something that says.  "thanks for bringing me here"  Today I thought I would share some.  I was going through them today.  I wish there was a quick and nice button to hunt for photos on my caches alone.  I tried to stick to no more than one per cache. 

 GC1CNE6 by Scipio43This is a little bit away from the cache, but a cool pictures

GC1CNE6 by Scipio43This is a little bit away from the cache, but a cool pictures

 GC1CNEA by billdevCows out eating in the marsh

GC1CNEA by billdevCows out eating in the marsh

 GC1EF22 by snownomiI loved this stamp he used.  He passed away a year or more ago.  I miss his smiling gace and logs.

GC1EF22 by snownomiI loved this stamp he used.  He passed away a year or more ago.  I miss his smiling gace and logs.

 GC1FQ25 by fam2goa picture from one of my Wherigo tours.

GC1FQ25 by fam2goa picture from one of my Wherigo tours.

 GC1TKKNSilverheelsA shot from an Earthcache. at Castle rock campground.  I will be honest, I edited the photos rotation a bit.

GC1TKKNSilverheelsA shot from an Earthcache. at Castle rock campground.  I will be honest, I edited the photos rotation a bit.

 GC1XPWP drgw3128Another shot from a Wherigo, of one of my Pirate containers for a geocachie.  He was crazy enough to go hunt in the snow for it.

GC1XPWP drgw3128Another shot from a Wherigo, of one of my Pirate containers for a geocachie.  He was crazy enough to go hunt in the snow for it.

 GC1XPYD Sierrawildflower & GeoHikerAnother ending to a Wherigo.  You have to have treasure at the end of a pirates treasure hunt.

GC1XPYD Sierrawildflower & GeoHikerAnother ending to a Wherigo.  You have to have treasure at the end of a pirates treasure hunt.

 GC1XWTR zacknmomI placed a cache at a simple walk to overlook.  It was when I took DK Titan out for a caching run.  You walk over the hill top, some 30 yards from the road, and this is what you see.

GC1XWTR zacknmomI placed a cache at a simple walk to overlook.  It was when I took DK Titan out for a caching run.  You walk over the hill top, some 30 yards from the road, and this is what you see.

 GC2BV56 toja7A nice wade to get to the other side.  They did not want to walk around.

GC2BV56 toja7A nice wade to get to the other side.  They did not want to walk around.

 GC2CPRQ cold1He always complains that I am out to kill him by placing caches.  This was possibly the closest I came to doing it.  Maybe next time.

GC2CPRQ cold1He always complains that I am out to kill him by placing caches.  This was possibly the closest I came to doing it.  Maybe next time.

 GC2DG6M JacobBarlowAnother small hike.  I think it was only a few hundred yards.  See that point way over there.  I place a cache on that point as well.

GC2DG6M JacobBarlowAnother small hike.  I think it was only a few hundred yards.  See that point way over there.  I place a cache on that point as well.

Hope you enjoyed them.  I have another two groups of 10 with my favorite caching photos, on my caches to come.

Welcome Back Challenge Caches

Well they are back.  I have really liked challenge caches.  I know some of you do not, but I enjoy setting goals and working towards them.  They are something that I do not dive into a ton, but I do like to have something to work towards other than the next number.  I would rather go find 7-8 caches that are interesting, than grab 200 for the next milestone.

Changes

Must qualify

Now you actually have to meet the challenge before placing.  I am not a big fan of this, but it helps the reviewer know if it is just a crazy challenge or not.  Meh, I can live with it.

Checker

You have to have a checker from project-gc.com I am not a huge fan of project gc, but I don't hate it.  I wish they had allowed GSAK as well.  However I understand that they do not want people to have to download anything.  Hopefully new online checkers will arise. 

No more Alphabet Soup

One of the most notable changes is caches based on titles and GC codes will go away.  These made up a lot in my area.  They are easily changed, manipulated, caches are placed to foil them, owners try to not include caches placed after.  It just became an appeals mess, and a logistical nightmare if you were following many. I will miss them, but apparently many will not.

No more puzzles to find them.

They need to be at the coordinates, or have a visible waypoint.  Not a huge change, but new.  I hated the hidden ones, or the ones that you have to contact the owner.  They seem to never respond.

One Year Streak Limit

I did this locally anyway, but I know there is one for a three year streak out there somewhere.

No More Blackout Challenges

No more caches based on you getting every cache in an area.  Another one I hated.  One hard or missing cache and you were stuck.  It encouraged people to try and get those archived.

Find Dates

You cant start a challenge at a specific date. Every find must count.  That may leave out those that have found a lot. They may have found all the caches needed.

Summary

Well, thats it for how. I will see about more later after I get questions and think some more.

Meercat Caching

So I went caching with Meercat.  No not some long hariy weasel looking think from the Lion King.  But with the app.

Basically it is a streaming service.  Using it took a little planning to take caching.  Basically the app lets you stream a video from your phone.  People can send you messages and ask questions.  I decided I wanted to go caching.

Well the first thing was that I was not going to be able to use my phone to find caches.  Yep.  I was going to need to actually have another device. Problem solved, I have a tablet.  I loaded the local caches in offline mode, and off I went.

The tricks?  You need to stay in 4g coverage area.  I lost signal when I went into a little more remote of a location in the valley, so I had to head back.  However traveling around town was not bad.  I have a gps mount in my car.  It will also hold phones.  The camera on my phone is high enough I can stick it there and it shows a view out of my front window.  So I can see what is up, plus the people following me.

Another problem? Holding the phone.  As you are streaming you want to make sure that you show what you are doing.  Show the area you are hunting, under the trees, in the bushes.  Flashing around right to left, and showing the ground as you walk would most likely turn people off.  I had to hold my phone up. So I am sure I looked goofy.

Plus I was narrarating what I was doing. When I started to get watchers things got better.  They were asking questions.  Typical muggle stuff. "what are you doing?" "What are you looking for?" What is the best stuff you have found?"

I avoided questionable spots.  Though someone thought it was cool that there was a LPC. Most of what I found were micros in bushes.  However they were in the rural area and people were commenting that they thought utah looked like deserts, and Bryce canyon, not green fields.

I had three guys, one from Dallas, and another from somewhere in California that were going to run out and try it.  I pointed them to apps, and they were going to give it a shot.

Note: It is really tricky to hold a phone, open a cache container, take out the roll of paper, and sign it with one hand.  A friend might come in handy.  However the entire reason I did this is because I cache alone.  This gave me friends to talk with.

I think the others got more out of it than I did. It drained my battery pretty fast, about 45 minutes and it was done.  I was not charging it in any way.

It was fun. I will try it again sometime. I made a few new friends.  Right now it is just available on Android, it was pretty buggy, but it is getting much more stable.  It has been out a while on Iphones, so if you have one of those you are in luck.  A similar one is Periscope, but it is only on Iphone for a while.

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